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How to Troll a Men’s Rights Activist Group

A local Men’s Rights Activist group has decided to start plastering their posters all over my city. They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking of the weekly pro-choice demonstrations I’ve been participating in for over three months now (and nearly pissing themselves when I make eye contact).

Their websites are essentially nothing more than misogynist rant blogs (the local “masculism.ca” appears to be their “tame” webpage, whereas “avoiceformen.com” is literally just rageface-ranting against women) , and their posters are tailored to the degree of misogynist extremism each website promotes. But I see what they’re doing (see: I see what you did there). So instead of getting angry, I’m simply going to troll them the way they’ve been trolling me and my friends.

See also: straw feminist argument

Inspired by one of their posters, which cited that 97% of industrial accidents and injuries happen to men. LOL could that be because 97% of people employed in those settings are men?

This one’s a crowd-pleaser.

Let The Trolling Begin

The reason I am taking this approach, rather than getting fury at them is because this group is a small collective of misogynist trolls. The way they operate is really no different from the way an online white supremacy hate group operates. Sure, there will be a half a dozen or maybe even a dozen actual “activists” or “advocates” who will put their faces out there and take to the streets with their message (if they think it’s safe, and if not, they’ll just cover their faces for their own protection). Maybe they’ll even pay for a banner they can carry. But at the end of the day, if and when they do appear, they’ll be chased down the street into a train station by an angry mob — just like the time that actually happened in Edmonton (of all places!) with a white supremacy hate group called Blood and Honour.

And I have little doubt that if they are reading this right now, they’re puffing their chests up and thumping on their sternums, because they have hundreds if not thousands of people checking their websites, offering all sorts of support, and cheering them on from the sidelines. Well, I love to burst a good bubble: probably 85% of the people on these websites are trolling you guys, guys. They stand with you because they’ve been brain-washed by the same systemic sexism against women and latent misogyny that characterizes the very same dominant culture we share when we’re not busy trolling each other. But they don’t believe everything you say (or even most of it), and they think you’re fucking hilarious because you’re so far out of orbit. It’s the funnel effect — not rocket surgery.

Make sure you wear your running shoes, gentlemen. You may have been able to grab my shortest, thinnest female friend and threaten her. You may even have magically gained the instant support from men within ear shot who think she’s such a Big Bad Bitch for tearing your posters down or for yelling at you for assaulting her and threatening to beat up her boyfriend. But you’re not going to get away with that when I’m around — whether or not the police are present. I’m far too childish to take any of you seriously.

120 thoughts on “How to Troll a Men’s Rights Activist Group

      • I wish i could just “like” your comment, but instead i’ll just share in the <3 that MRAs totally took the troll bait on this one.

        • LOL I especially love how when I say “their entire movement operates in an analogous way to the way a white supremacist movement operates”, they get all mad and say “BUT I’M NOT RACIST!”

      • Are you pinegrove33? If so you’re welcome! I visited your YouTube page and agreed so I posted it here for the other half to see! What’s with the caps?

      • This afternoon, I spent about two hours talking to Jack Day — the man who does most of the postering — and he sets the record straight with his own version of events. During our conversation, Jack released the following official statement:

        “No threats were ever made. I’ve been to every postering campaign, and nobody has ever threatened anybody on any level. We are not interested in arguing with people who are closed-minded. At a minimum, they must be “on the fence”. We have never been anywhere close to any pro-choice demonstrations, let alone interacting with their participants, and so the scenario which the blog describes is a complete fabrication. It never happened. Furthermore, the pro-male project has no consensus on the legality of abortion, either pro or anti. Our overriding concern is with male reproductive rights.”

        • I didn’t say they interacted with us. I said they almost pissed themselves when I made eye contact.

          Just like how I didn’t actually say any of them are racist/white supremacist, but that the manner in which the group operates is exactly parallel to a racist hate group.

          You’d think people who are so bent on demanding sound arguments from everyone else would at least demonstrate the intellectual honesty of not making shit up as they see fit.

          • Maybe they almost pissed themselves laughing at that ridiculous thing in your face. As tough as you think you are or try to act, I promise, you are a joke and no guy is intimidated or scared of you.

      • Haifisch said this:
        “They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking of the weekly pro-choice demonstrations I’ve been participating in for over three months now (and nearly pissing themselves when I make eye contact).”

        But then ze claimed that:
        “I didn’t say they interacted with us. I said they almost pissed themselves when I made eye contact.”

        Except, that they’ve not been to your pro-choice demonstrations. As Jack Day stated, there is absolutely no consensus in The Pro-Male Men’s Movement about abortion. Among us Masculinists we deliberately encourage people to make up their own damned mind about the subject. A great many of us, myself included, support abortion if only because it benefits Men who then are not tied for the rest of their lives to a woman they’d rather not have anything to do with spending time around.

        From the start they have posted photographs and reports of all of there postering affairs. And not a word of what you have said is true.

        Not that I mind. Please, keep the fibs coming. It makes it all that much easier for me to convince people about my position. In fact, I rarely send anyone to Pro-Male sites if I want to convince them to become Pro-Male. I just send them to sites like yours and let them try to find the wheat in among your huge piles of chaff.

        So thanks! Much appreciated.

        Oh and:

        I pooped my pants. All by myself.

        • I have been in the demonstrations for over three months. I didn’t claim I’ve been spotting MRAs hanging around and making eye contact with me there for over three months.

          And yeah. Sure. They didn’t attend the demonstration. But you must be completely obtuse, to think that this demonstration is somehow contained in a corner somewhere, where people who are at the intersection can’t see what’s going on and make eye contact.

          I’ve seen the drive-bys. I’ve seen you guys on foot, too. You guys can’t keep your faces off the internet OR your mouths shut, and believe me, I notice suspicious behaviour when it’s happening anywhere at that intersection. Like, oh, someone shitting their pants in a drive-by while they’re staring at me.

      • For those of you out there not in the know, the postering campaigns have only been going on for a month. So it is impossible for the claims ze has made to be true at all. Methinks perhaps she is confusing Christian Anti-Abortion Activists with Liberal (and often socialist) Men’s Rights Aoirthoirs. The only thing I can conclude from this is that those Christian Anti-Abortion Activists must be really well dressed and attractive for ze to confuse us with them.

        • I find anti-abortion protesters are almost exclusively Christians against abortion, never MRA’s trying to oppress women. Perhaps HAIFISCHGEWEINT should go after Christian groups instead.

      • “They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking of the weekly pro-choice demonstrations I’ve been participating in for over three months now (and nearly pissing themselves when I make eye contact).”

        OR

        “I didn’t claim I’ve been spotting MRAs hanging around and making eye contact with me there for over three months.”

        Which is it? You cannot even get your OWN story straight. And you expect us to believe anything else you say?

        First THEY (the MRAs..that IS who you wrote this article about…) are doing STALKING of the demosntrates YOUVE been participating in for three months… or…you;ve NOT claimed to be spotting them….

        Which is it?

        ATTENTION MEN…I’m screen capping because now that I’ve caught ze in an obvious lie I have a 20 quid bet with Mark Golden that they will not publish any more of my comments.

        “this demonstration is somehow contained in a corner somewhere, ”

        Actually in Mancouver, it is contained. We’ve only JUST started. A MONTH ago. And from the start, the activities of the Brothers in Mancouver have been published almost daily. So we have a complete record of what they have done.

        “I’ve seen the drive-bys.”

        False because there haven’t been any drive bys. All of the work of the Mancouverians has been on foot.

        “I’ve seen you guys on foot, too.”

        Sure. For ONE month. Not three months and most definitely not at your abortion demonstrations.

        “You guys can’t keep your faces off the internet ”

        My face is plastered all over the internet. I’ve been in this work for a decade now and I’ve been fully open and out of the closet from the start. Just as I am out of the closet about all of my activities, my socialism, my anarchism, my paganism. Why would I want to keep my faces off of the internet?

        “OR your mouths shut,”

        It is due to my not having dentures that I cannot keep my mouth shut. And it’s a small mouth at that. But loud.

        I am placing you on notice, we are about to get louder. We are demanding the same rights in court that you women get. We are demanding health care be afforded to Men the same as women. We are demanding something be done about the education gap which favors women. We are demanding something about the wage gap which favors women. We demand EQUALITY.

        “and believe me, I notice suspicious behaviour when it’s happening anywhere at that intersection. Like, oh, someone shitting their pants in a drive-by while they’re staring at me.”

        No. You make it up. You see someone just randomly in a car and you have convinced yourself that they are MRAs “stalking” you. You’ve done this so you can cry victim when we do actually arrive in a town near you and protest lawfully and non-violently. Because since we are lawful, non-violent and gentle, you have no recourse to use fear tactics except to make stuff up and pretend you are skeered.

        We’re not falling for it and neither is the public anymore. As I said all I have to do to convince someone that Men also deserve rights and that Mens RIghts are Human Rights, is direct them here, or feministe or feministing or jezebel or any of the other sites that are so rife with man hating that I don’t have to say “see they hate Men!” Rather I just have to say “what do you think about this site..” You do my work for me.

        Thank you.

      • “A local Men’s Rights Activist group has decided to start plastering their posters all over my city. They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking of the weekly pro-choice demonstrations I’ve been participating in for over three months now (and nearly pissing themselves when I make eye contact).”

        OR

        “I have been in the demonstrations for over three months. I didn’t claim I’ve been spotting MRAs hanging around and making eye contact with me there for over three months.”

        Which is it?

        • Dude.

          Can you read English?

          Unless we’re arguing about a Missing Comma Case with the Internet Grammar Task Force, there is no contradiction between these two statements.

          What the fuck just crawled up your ass?

    • @cake Seems to me that nobody took any “troll bait”. Nobody really gives a crap.

      @Haifisch “LOL I especially love how when I say “their entire movement operates in an analogous way to the way a white supremacist movement operates”, they get all mad and say “BUT I’M NOT RACIST!”
      – Most of them don’t get mad at all. They just assume you’re a moron and move on.

      And who are you to berate people for getting mad? When someone makes a rape joke you feminazis go off the wall and rage like nobodies business. The hypocrisy is wonderful.

      • “Seems to me that nobody took any “troll bait”. Nobody really gives a crap.”

        Which is why you’re all hear stating the redundant. (Don’t stop now – you’re achieving so much!)

      • “Don’t stop now – you’re achieving so much!”

        We are in fact, “achieving” so much. We’re exposing to the world just how quickly feminists will spring to lie.

        Here is another little tidbit not really mentioned in the comments. Almost all of the posters say “Mens rights is human rights…” and over that poster the feminists sprayed “WRONG!” which gives us a clear indication that though they claim not to be anti-male, they most definitely are in fact, anti-male. And in the worst ways possible.

    • There’s a complete contradiction. Either they’ve been doing it or they haven’t. Either you’ve spotted them and seen them piss themselves for three months as you claim, or you haven’t.

      No worries you can stomp your little petulant feet all you want. The rest reading this will easily recognize your contradiction no matter how you try to squirm out of it. As Mentioned we are taking regular screen caps because you feminists have a way of erasing your history to claim things happened that never happened.

      • What is your native language, and have you ever had your (English) writing evaluated by, say, an instructor in a post-secondary institution?

        If I wrote (let alone argued) like you do when I was in college, I’d have flunked out of my first semester. Please build on your capacity to understand how the English language operates on even the most basic level, or stop badgering me over my statements (which state that a) I have been in the demonstrations for over three months, AND b) I have seen the drive-bys and pedestrian looky-lous who are associated with the local MRM.

        It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to understand this. In fact, it really only takes a basic level of understanding of how the language operates, while we rely upon it to communicate with each other about this very trivial concern.

        Good day.

      • Notice MEN, ze makes a claim that ze saw you, then makes a claim that ze did not claim that ze saw you. Then ze attempts to use national origin based shaming language. Clearly I could not be as good as ze because when ze first claims to have seen you and then ze claims ze never claimed ze saw you, well I just must not be understanding dem big ole wirds ze be speakin’.

        I’m Irish pebbletin. So you’re not going to be able to shame me. Try again.

        And why yir at it, why not tell us, Did you or did you NOT see these MRAs postering over the last three months and makin’ the sneaky dinks into your pro-choice protests, since you know, most Pro-Male Advocates are just so anti-abortion, even though, um, we’re not.

        I certainly didn’t get the Memo. Fidelbogen, Jack, JTO, Golden, did yous guys sends out the memo that Aoirthoir’s ‘sposed to be anti abortion now and git himsilf up to all dem doo diddly doo pro-choice demonstrations and start STARKIN…?

      • “They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking —-> of when I make eye contact <——-)."

        No mistaking the language here at all pebbletin. You specifically said they've been doing drive bys and stalking at OF the pro choice demonstrations YOUVE been participating in. You also made it clear YOUVE made EYE contact with them (and they pissed themselves).

        Now you are back pedaling becaus those ACTUALLY involved in the events And or the planning and or the meetings and debriefings are calling you on your lie because they've NOT BEEN DOING them for three months. AND we NEVER protest at pro-choice demonstrations cause we dont give a flippin feck about whether you have an abortion. ABORTION BENEFITS MEN. We made that clear.

        But you had no other way to attempt to instill fear in the public and your readership and perchance the police if you could get them to believe your silly lie, except by making things up. Which is all well and good when you make things up in a vaccuum. But now you've made things up about a group who have a recorded history of what we've been doing, just to prevent this kind of scare mongering and libel that you feminists are so well known for. If you had facts on your side you would not need to attempt to scare monger about a group of peaceful, non-violent and gentle persons. You don't have facts.

        And your fib has now been exposed.

        True fact, 99% of feminists eat cabbage for breakfast. See, what I did there was just lie about feminists the same way you lie about those in The Pro-Male Men's Movement. The difference is eating cabbage isn't a crime, isn't dangerous and doesn't involve a scare tactic.

        I recommend my Brothers in Mancouver take your post and all lying posts like it that falsely accuse them of stalking to The Canadian Human Rights Commission. Libelous Hate Speech and False Allegations are not tolerated in Canada like they are in the USA.

        And yes I am screen capping this entire page.

        • You go right ahead and press the print screen button as many times as you need to feel secure in yourself.

          Meanwhile, if you weren’t being so intellectually lazy as to literally just not bother looking for why I’ve been demonstrating for over three months, I’ll spell it out for you:

          I wouldn’t be there if the people I picket were in fact playing nice. Instead, they sexually harass women, shame them, grab them, and punch them. And that is what I’m there to protest.

          I don’t give a shit what your personal or political leanings are on the issue of abortion. I don’t even care what the personal or political leanings are of the people I picket (although they do want to throw women in jail for having one, and I find that problematic).

          I’m not reading most of what you’re saying here, because frankly, you’re now boring the snot out of me. I’ve seen men staring at me and my friends at these demonstrations — which I have been attending for over three months — but I have made no claim whatsoever as to how long it’s been that I’ve been seeing those faces repeatedly making appearances, either by driving by and gawking while I point at them, or walking up from across the street and staring, presumably because they were already in the area for some unrelated reason.

          Make no mistake: I’ve seen them. I recognized two of them immediately when someone posted one of the pictures of six local MRA “advocates”.

          Your grammar-policing is fucking childish and pathetic. The fact that you’re actually bringing up hate speech and libel in this conversation is beyond absurd. I suggest you take the advice of one of the earlier commentators at this point, and get a life. Or at least one that’s more interesting.

      • “You go right ahead and press the print screen button as many times as you need to feel secure in yourself.”

        Thank you. I shall. It makes me securing knowing that you feminists can no longer change history.

        “Meanwhile, if you weren’t being so intellectually lazy as to literally just not bother looking for why I’ve been demonstrating for over three months,”

        I know why you’ve been demonstrating. You realize I am PRO-abortion right? Or did you ignore that little tidbit on purpose?

        ” I’ll spell it out for you: I wouldn’t be there if the people I picket were in fact playing nice. Instead, they sexually harass women, shame them, grab them, and punch them. And that is what I’m there to protest.”

        I kow what happens at pro-choice and anti-abortion protests. I used to walk by a group that protested the local planned parenthood every tuesday and saturday. Nevermind that this planned parenthood was not an abortion center at all. Nevermind that it helped people like me with low-cost, affordable STI tests.

        But this is what I know. The in the Pro-Male Men’s Movement aren’t the ones out there protesting. Most of them are very conservative Christians. Many MRAs are atheists. Many are Christian. Many are Muslim. Many (like myself) are Pagan. So you can try to falsely and unjustly conflate us with the conservatives who you meet. Sorry, but that’s a major fail. We’re not them.

        “I don’t give a shit what your personal or political leanings are on the issue of abortion.”

        Of course you don’t. Because that would mean you have to be intellectually honest and stop lying that you saw MRAs at a place they’ve never been.

        “I don’t even care what the personal or political leanings are of the people I picket (although they do want to throw women in jail for having one, and I find that problematic).”

        I find it problematic too. Welcome to large state government, that’s what you feminists crave so much. I’m an anarchist socialist libertarian for a reason. The RIGHT to an abortion is something that was a right for the better part of western history.

        “I’m not reading most of what you’re saying here,”

        Of course you’re not. That would then require that you actually respond to what I actually say rather than making shit up about me and others in the Pro-Male Mens Movement.

        ” because frankly, you’re now boring the snot out of me.”

        I’m never bored.

        “I’ve seen men staring at me and my friends at these demonstrations — which I have been attending for over three months — but I have made no claim whatsoever as to how long it’s been that I’ve been seeing those faces repeatedly making appearances, either by driving by and gawking while I point at them, or walking up from across the street and staring, presumably because they were already in the area for some unrelated reason.”

        Now it’s “men” and not “mras”. Well true you did not make a claim as to how long MEN have been doing this. But you most certainly did make a claim about how long MRAs have been doing it. Here, for convenience let me quote you pebbletin, it’s in the first Paragraph of your article:

        “A local Men’s Rights Activist group has decided to start plastering their posters all over my city. They’ve also been doing drive-bys and pedestrian stalking of the weekly pro-choice demonstrations I’ve been participating in for over three months now (and nearly pissing themselves when I make eye contact).”

        See, right there, three months according to your lying words.

        “Make no mistake: I’ve seen them. I recognized two of them immediately when someone posted one of the pictures of six local MRA “advocates”.”

        Well by the gods if You’ve seen them they must just have been there protesting for three months and handing out fliers, despite the fact that they only started handing out fliers a month ago. I mean, they might not’v just been walking down the street cause you know the only Men allowed on the street are the Men you say.

        “Your grammar-policing is fucking childish and pathetic.”

        So you mean when you said that they have been stalking for three months you didn’t mean it? Or do you mean that when you said you never said they were stalking for three months, you never said it?

        “The fact that you’re actually bringing up hate speech and libel in this conversation is beyond absurd.”

        Of course it is. Because a feminist will never admit when ze is wrong.

        “I suggest you take the advice of one of the earlier commentators at this point, and get a life.”

        No.

        “Or at least one that’s more interesting.”

        No. I like my non-interesting life. My totem is a badger, nice and quite and gentle animals. Healers of the animal world. Did you know that? And mythographically my fictional totem would be a Hobbit. I like boring. So I really really dig myself.

        And yes screen caps in progress. We know how you feminists just LOVE to change history when you lie, libel and produce your hate speech.

        • You seem to think I’m reading everything, when I’ve stated transparently that I’m not because you don’t entertain me.

          Great. We’re both against criminalizing abortion. A point of unity.

          Now if you would kindly stop attempting to convince me that I have in any way conflated you and your peers with the people I picket against, that would be great. The fact that you or your peers appeared multiple times in consecutive weeks at an extremely busy intersection is not equivalent to conflating your presence with a cause you do not associate yourselves with. Thus, the only person making this conflation is you.

      • “The fact that you or your peers appeared”

        ME or my peers eh? So you’ve seen me at these protests have you? You’ve seen me starkin ya and the likes a yous eh?

        Well, I hope you are going to sell me a bridge soon, cause these tales are just getting bigger’n bigger. Where I come from we call that one ‘eluva whopper. And I don’t mean burger king…

      • Oh I saw the word OR. But you and I know how these blogs work. If I were to say something like

        HaifischGeweint or her friends were out raping children…..

        We know exactly what people would read.

        And we know exactly what your intended message is when you claim “You or your …” Had you any honesty whatsoever you would have just come right out directly and falsely accused me as you falsely accused all the other Men you have of stalking, when no stalking occurred. At least then you could honestly say “yes I meant you!” But instead you tried a sideswipe because you’ve already realized I’m not even in Canada, much less BC, much less east coast. You realize this because you’ve already googled me and realized, I am a fully out and open Masculinist and have been since my first becoming a Masculinist.

        Now knowing that I am not even in your neck of the woods, you still try to use a trick of language to get your readership to INFER that I am a stalker too. Too bad for you, that you feminists are so massively into fail that again, I get to congratulate you on a job well done and THANK you for doing my job for me. In fact there is one particular self identified feminist here locally that I’ve been talking to and she is just about ready to take the plunge into Masculinism. Your post and attempt at trickery is I think, going to be the final Pitzpuh that I need to convince her.

        So thank you for helping to grow the ranks of the Masculinists.

        All Men are Men.
        All Men are Good.
        All Men are Worthy.
        All Masculinists are Dutiful.

      • “You’re really actually so interested in yourself that you think I’ve bothered looking up who you are, don’t you?”

        Of course I am “so” Interested in myself. Everyone should be as interested in themselves as I am in me. Having a large ego is something you Humans desperately need at this stage in your evolution.

        But my having a large ego and being keenly interested in myself, and being out of the closet about being keenly interested in myself, has nothing to do with why I figured you would google me. See, if I were to make a sideswipe at an accusation at someone like you did, I would first google to verify they are even…..

        you know…

        in the area I would be implying they were in.

        That way I didn’t look just plain stupid when I made the false allegation.

        OF course all of what I just said has two major fails. 1. I don’t make false allegations or even imply false allegations. 2. I’m so much more interested in myself that in this conversation I googled me half a dozen times, and you, not once. Since I trust my opinion much more than yours, this fact of whom I googled and whom I did not, confirms unmistakably to me that I am in fact, not just in my mind, much more interesting, than you.

      • Aoirthoir, I would make it simple. Jack Day told me this:

        “the scenario which the blog describes is a complete fabrication. It never happened.”

        What part of “complete fabrication” and “it never happened” does fruitloops not understand, I wonder?

        Jack and I went over this mighty thoroughly, too.

  1. Fake statistics, victimizing a sex, lying, avoiding logic and debate in favor of having a hissy fit and censoring, change MRA with feminists and you will have some accurate photos there.

  2. There is one important difference between this blog entry and any one on avoiceformen.com.
    This one, in certain knowledge of its truthiness, does not have to “prove” anything by facts or examples. It can comfortably wallow in shaming language and threats.
    They don’t do that.
    Morons.

  3. Feminism is based on false statistics Men’s Rights Groups give the actual statistics. Dr Warren Farrell was the first I know of that actual picked up on the false stats that Feminist Groups were putting out there and went to the US government and FBI to get the real statistics on domestic violence, wage rates etc.. and determined there was an equal level of violence between men and women women instigate 80% of the time ! wage gaps it was the choices that ppl make not based on gender and their are wage equity laws through out the west.

  4. you appear to be delusional, or possibly mis informed. If you’re in Vancouver – you could come with us on a saturday poster run. We’d be happy to have you along and clear up most of your mistake impression.

    ~ cheers, JtO

  5. actually MRAs don’t do anything mysoginistic. you are actually misandric.
    and you obviously don’t believe in equal rights. and you’re obviously a feminist. get a life

  6. So, the article is called “How to Troll a Men’s Rights Activist Group” but you don’t actually instruct people on how to do that. You just offer up a bunch of straw men. For example, MRAs don’t want people to think that all accusations of rape are false. We just want to preserve the presumption of innocence, which is being quickly eroded by feminist moral panick surrounding rape.

    • Sharky is linguistically creative about the meaning of the verb “to troll.” I cannot see that it has any bearing here, to the way it is normally used on the internet. But perhaps I am missing something.

  7. If MRA’s are comprised of white racist groups. How do you explain my membership? Feminism is a cancer upon society. It is nothing more but an anti male ideology while simultaneously holding women to NO accountability whatsoever. I’ll be glad when black women finally awaken from this witchcraft slumber & go back to building the precious nuclear family,heck I’ll be relieved when ALL people regardless of ethic background/race forsake this elite funded,socially engineered divisive tool that is feminism. Feminism has corrupted the healthy normal relationships between male & female,period.

    • What feminists are closing their mind to is one important fact:

      Men have had it.

      And so Men are uniting. As you know Brother, we Masculinists come from every walk. We have anti-abortionists, pro-abortionists, pro-marriage, anti-marriage, christian, pagan, atheist, muslim, buddhist, agnostic, dontgiveashitist, republican, democrat, socialist, conservative, libertarian, anarchist, black, white, Irish, fat Irish, fat toothless Irish, fat toothless Irish with broken dentures and distended bellies, fat toothless Irish with broken dentures and distended bellies and an overworked sense of imagination leading to a giant ego when we poop and…well, you all get the idea.

      What unifies us is one thing. We’re Men. We’ve had enough of being told that being Men Makes us rotten because some people at the top are Men (ignoring that some are women) and those Men could give two horses pootooties about us just because we have a dangler or a Y. Equality means equality.

      It means either closing down most of the prisons and stop jailing men for non violent crimes or start jailing women for non-violent crimes.

      The choices is yours cupcakes. Either way we WILL give you the equality you’ve been demanding for 50 years.

  8. @Haifischeweint

    For the sake of human beings like you who are MRA’s (trans & gay) before you just throw rocks (metaphorically speaking) at them would you please find out for yourself what the heart & soul of feminism (radfemhub.com) is all about, then you might see that the men & women of all creeds, colours & sexuality that compromise the MRA movement maybe just maybe are not about hatred of women but actually people who are trying to achieve a fair & healthy outcome to a hidden, unacknowledged , silenced, shamed multitude of people (born male) who are in most cases their own worse enemies since they won’t even acknowledge the harm, injustice & carnage the average (born male) or male are living & experiencing since the Alpha 1% of them are the misogynist who are running the world & couldn’t care how they will throw anyone (man or woman) under the bus .

  9. MRA’s tactics are tame compared to the all powerful feminists who rule over us. Stop acting like a poor powerless girl and be a true woman by joining us MRA’s. You go girl!

  10. I guess we are going to have to change Gandi’s aphorism to first they ignore you then they troll you…

    Measure our movement by what we accomplish.

  11. I am an MRA. And I have mother, a whole lot of women friends, aunts, causins. And also men in my life that are very dear to me. If a woman or any human being claims to be victim of rape or any other despicable coward crime, he/she must be taken seriously. Not all men and women are liars, I say as an advocate for men’s and boy’s rights – and anyone accused of a violent crime also has the right to due process. I know men and women who were victim of sexual violence, I am one of them.

    And what I, as many others, denounce about feminism is the ideology that the world lives under an “universal power system that privileges men at the expense of women” (Patriarchy, as defined in the “Dictionary of Feminism”). Most of my friends are feminist and I used to defend feminism most of my life and it is startling how that belief can make people hermetic to any problems of men. It is a dishumanizing perspective of a whole demographic (men and boys) and it would be unacceptable if applied to any other group.

    Now about false statistics, Christina Hoff Sommers, who already stated she herself is a feminist, has very well known works on how feminist groups present false statistics that influentiate in the creation of laws (like VAWA), regulations (like the rules “against sexual harassment/rape) on campuses and the media, all due to that ideology, so overwhelmingly widespread in the mainstream feminism? Why shouldn’t men be interested in knowing other statistics and question everything?

    I defend women’s and girls’ rights too. I do not condone crime, hate or dispise for any group of human beings. Men too have equal right to stand up for their rights. Like equality and fairness in education opportunities, family courts, homelessness, treatment before the law, dignity, etc. Nobody claiming to be an MRA online or in the real life should be automatically trusted or seen as representative of MRA’s. He/she can be a respectable or not, could be someone who rightfully or not feeling hurt or victim or injustice, or is a troll or a dishonest opportunist, etc.

    I do support men’s human rights in Edmonton and everywhere though. Thus I am a men’s and boys’ rights advocate and part of the Men’s Rights Movement. Defending human rights of men and boys has nothing to do with what was said above.

  12. This hypocrisy is just awesome. Feminists speak always about equal rights. But mens rights, no. They’re not part of equal rights, men dont deserve any human rights. U can see the failure?

    • They actually endorsed threatening women right in the OP. It is disgusting how case after case feminists do that. It is why feminism is waning in support among women. Women you see, are a lot smarter than feminists give them credit for and they recognize when they are being duped.

  13. I don’t consider myself an MRA but I supoport their message. Also…
    “MRA’s want you to think all feminists want is to make men powerless”
    They kinda do, but MRA’s usually don’t say that. What feminists want is for females to have privilege over males, that’s gneerally what MRA’s say. And they’re right!
    “MRA’s give you random stats without any context”
    Nope. The MRA stats are never random and always have explanations, it isn’t rocket science. But of course, any stats that you disagree wth because you don’t want to accept that they’re true are always “random” and “out of context”. Feminists give you false stats that are only to there push their agendas.
    “It neither proves nor argues anything. It’s just numbers”
    Oh I see, so when MRA’s have statistics that you don’t want to see they’re “just numbers”. But when feminists give bogus stats that say “1 in 2 girls will be sexually assaulted”, then it isn’t just numbers, but the “truth”? You’re an idiot. Those “numbers” prove/argue whatever is in question. That’s the whole point of REAL statistics.
    “MRA’s want you to believe that women are always lying when they say they’ve been raped”
    Really? Where’s your proof? From what I see, MRA’s only want people to see how many women actually lie about rape(a lot of them do). They don’t want anyone to believe women are ALWAYS lying, but instead that it is always a POSSIBILITY.
    Also, trolling MRA’s isn’t going to get you anywhere since most of them know when they’re being trolled, and they’ll just look at you like an idiot. However, trolling feminists is always great since they get the most offended.

    • I dub the Men working in Mancouver BC, Canada as MRAs, Mens Rights Aoirthoirs. They’ve taken up the gauntlet and run with it. I don’t even know what a gauntlet is! I cannot wait to find more about the petition and circus!

      Oh and I pooped my pants. All by myself.

    • You don’t consider yourself an MRA? You mean you don’t *call* yourself an MRA, right?

      But you do talk like an MRA, and you do pass the duck test as one.

      But hey, that’s all right. I don’t CALL myself an MRA, either! ;)

  14. Notice, not a single educated response to anything stated by MRAs. Though I’m sure it won’t be long before we see the shaming tactics begin. I figure now is a good time to call them out, before they have the opportunity. You see feminists, we know all of your tactics and methods. If you want to make a point, how about actually addressing the issues and giving some ACTUAL facts that you can back up with REAL data and not just more tripe gathered by some women’s group. Bring us some data from unbiased sources like the CDC or FBI, as MRAs have, and we’ll listen to what you have to say. But every time you drop numbers gathered by groups like NOW, we’re going to be suspicious because there’s a conflict of interest. Am I getting through to any of you? I’m truly hopeful that you’re smarter than feminism makes you out to be. Feminism would have us believe that you’re not capable of thinking for yourselves, that you require things like affirmative action to find gainful employment, and that your helpless to defend yourselves, requiring the government to defend you at every turn. That’s not what I believe. I believe that women are strong enough and intelligent enough to do for themselves. Don’t believe everything that people tell you. Do the research yourselves and seek the truth in things. When you’ve done the research and are well informed, maybe we can have a rational debate. Until then, stop just repeating nonsense that has been debunked many times over and assuming that by simply criticizing something or someone it’s done out of prejudice or hate. Criticism is not hate or prejudice, it’s criticism. Refute it with real facts and you’ll be taken seriously. Refute it with shaming tactics and ridiculous mission statements and we’ll laugh at you and walk away.

  15. “Inspired by one of their posters, which cited that 97% of industrial accidents and injuries happen to men. LOL could that be because 97% of people employed in those settings are men?”
    I fail to see the point of this statement. Are you saying that it doesn’t matter because these are predominately male professions? Men don’t count? Is that your assertion? Because that’s what it sounds like. Would it help if I told you that men are at least 30% more likely to be the victims of violent crime? Check the Bureau of Justice statistics if you don’t believe me. Or does that not count because they’re men? Or we could talk about the number of men killed in combat. I don’t hear feminists railing against their exclusion from the draft, yet every male in the US must register or face imprisonment. Feminists never complain when something is in their favor, regardless of fairness. Oh, but ALL men are privileged, right? Women are the only victims in the world, and all men are monsters, even though mothers are three times more likely to abuse their children, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services. Mind you, most of my data is US based because that’s where I live. I could keep going for quite a while, showing how women typically receive less jail time than men for the same crimes or the 23% of false rape accusations against men every year. But all women are oppressed right? I call shenanigans! If you can refute these with real, unbiased data, I’ll listen to what you have to say, but all I expect too get is the typical shaming tactics of “I’m sorry you hate women,” or “you are just bitter because you can’t get laid.” Logic forbid(I’m an atheist,lol) you actually address the issues.

  16. I am the troll that trolls trolls…. Lady ze gestapo!!! You have just encountered the troller of feminazi troll’s prepare to maintain your victim stance and your clarified hatred of men who choose to be their own gods!!!

    I have witnessed much back-stepping my dear… yes I do use endearing names to patronize you… add that to your victim list lovey!!!… oooh and that one to sweety…. ooops, there goes another!!!!!

    Meanwhile… as your lies get bigger and bigger… watch the van with the camera stalking you my dear!!!!!!

  17. Moral of the story – do not make create a website and speak falsely of which you do not know anything about. HaifischGeweint, you have been exposed. Your dialogue is not as intellectual as you feel it is. Speaking out of one side of your mouth and then the other does not make one sound intelligent. Please spend more time creating your tall tales then you did designing this lackluster website.

  18. Yes I would piss myself if I saw this ‘person’ in Hamilton but not in the way ‘human’ has described.
    I would be pissing myself laughing as I did after reading this blog and the comments made by this ‘person’
    Do you really think I give a fiddlers flying fuck about abortion, nope not really. barely a blip on my radar.
    Am I misogynistic, nope I am anti feminism. Btw ‘person’ that’s an ideology not a class of humans.
    Do I want to put women back in the kitchen, nope I want them to get up off their asses and be productive.
    Do I want to lock women up, no I want them to held equally responsible for their actions and crimes.
    sorry ‘person’ your just a twit and now your 15 seconds of fame is over for me,, might come back every now and then when I need a good laugh.

  19. “spired by one of their posters, which cited that 97% of industrial accidents and injuries happen to men. LOL could that be because 97% of people employed in those settings are men?”

    Well – yes. That’s kind of the point.

    • My, you sure use a lot of words there.

      I have never claimed to be a radfem extremist, which is actually a person who not only DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME, but who would actively try to silence my voice for a number of reasons relating to my gender and my sexuality.

      Of course, you would know this if you considered the possibility that there are other options between black-and-white extremes.

      • “My, you sure use a lot of words there.”

        So what?

        “I have never claimed to be a radfem extremist,”

        No, but what you have done instead is:

        1. Lie through your teeth about events that never took place.
        2. Lie through your teeth about what persons in The Pro-Male Men’s Movement state.
        3. Threaten violence against persons in The Pro-Male Men’s Movement.

        So, yeah, I’d say that pretty well ranks you up there with them.

        “which is actually a person who not only DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME, but who would actively try to silence my voice for a number of reasons relating to my gender and my sexuality.”

        Can it be? You are admitting how rotten feminism is?

        “Of course, you would know this if you considered the possibility that there are other options between black-and-white extremes.”

        Wow for once I agree with you. Fidelbogen (the author of that article) went way overboard in seeing lies as lies and threats as threats and libel as libel.

        Oh wait, no he didn’t! What was I on about?

        Try a little truth next time piddlepop.

  20. Ah, y’all need to lay off this person look at it from the poster’s perspective:

    In ten years, not a damned thing this individual will have spent their time doing will have mattered. All the raging will have been pointless.

    If the poster in fact matches the picture in the video, then they are incapable of holding a professional-level job. No company I’ve ever worked for would hire someone who looked like that. You need to look professional.

    (Appearance, by the way, is the reason people stare. When you’ve taken the trouble to defy every cultural taboo regarding appearance, people stare. You don’t want stares? Change your appearance to conform. If you don’t want to conform, that’s fine, but stop bitching when everybody stares. You wanted them to stare or you wouldn’t be doing this.)

    In any case, the future for this person isn’t very bright. They’re not going to be successful, either personally, professionally, or politically. They simply don’t matter. At all.

    So ignore it. It’s just some kid jumping up and down clamoring for attention. Pay it no mind.

  21. “Make no mistake: I’ve seen them. I recognized two of them immediately when someone posted one of the pictures of six local MRA “advocates”.

    No, no, no sharky, you’re flat out lying through your teeth here. But why don’t you give us a link to that picture you’re talking about. Was it on Jack Day’s blog (you know, the “tame” one?)

    And then tell us which of the people in the picture you saw at the demonstration…

    That should clarify things.

    But then, you will also need to give EVIDENCE that you really did see those people there. Like maybe a photo? And then, you will need to PROVE that they were actually doing anything untoward, rather than just innocent bystanding. . . ?

    Oh to hell with all this! Why don’t you just come clean, right now, and admit you are lying through your snaggly little choppers!

    • Apologies. I guess I should give context to that one. That’s in regards to supporting violence against men. I mean, you must like it right? I haven’t seen anything here opposing it….. as compared to the MRA sites which have a zero-tolerance policy against any form of violence. Thanks for your time.

  22. I was just drinking beer when i read it, HaifischGeweint you should warn people before writing a comedy script you know how much this fucking laptop costs.

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  26. This article is nothing more than opinions with nothing supporting it. No stats, examples, or references. It starts by implying that the city belongs to the OP and nobody else. I’m pretty sure other people live there and have say in what goes on there.

    Doesn’t point out any specific examples or links to misogyny in the websites.

    Men human rights activists want the accused to have a fair trial without assuming the accused is automatically guilty based on one persons word. We cant have system where a person can point at at another, make a claim then have that person thrown in jail with base on just that claim. If something did occur then there will be evidence of some sort to corroborate that claim.

    No examples of MHRA’s covering their faces. Just more claims. Iv got a video of feminist protesting an MHRA meeting in which many of them were covering their faces.

  27. WITHOUT reading ANY of the comments here, WHY would anyone WANT to troll a men’s rights activist group may I ask? Are men not allowed a say WITHOUT women interfering?

  28. These men are scum, akin to angry racists. There are good men out there, but these ones need euthanasia.

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